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By - Thursday, September 17th, 2009.
Should a pregnant schoolgirl be allowed to go to mainstream school while visibly pregnant?
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Would you remove the teenage fathers of these babies from school as well? Or should only the women “face consequences”?
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pregnancy is a problem in our social world the minds of these teenagers are filled wit thoughtful thoughts of hatred nd regrets why hav unprotectd sex wit sum1 hu wil leave u wen a precious gift is suddenly there 4eva? Wel i gues they learnt 4rm thier mistakes!
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In my time it was a no (1988) but society and life change. EVERYONE makes mistake and why not give them a chance. If their behaviour is good, punctuality is great and they show some signs of progress give them a chance.
In St. Kitts our teenagers returned to school and 87% of our pregnant teenagers do well in school. Presently one (1) is a Medical Doctor, there are teachers and some worked in the Government Service and Private Service etc.
Why not the fathers stop go school to and who pregnante them? If the females (pregnant) have been denied from going school we need to know who pregnate them and if it is a teenage boy do the same.
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A.J. I am not a master of comprehension, but, getting there slowly but surely with your assistance but nonetheless i also stand behind of “all that and more” statement above.
A.J. we still cannot ASSUME that because most of these ppl (as you stated) who see this debate in the opposing objective to you, do not want/need dialect as part communication and that they are prim & proper…they are just expressing their opinions/experience/wisdom.
For i am one who would appreciate seeing/hearing dialect being expressed in communication or curriculum even; but heck i surely aint prim & proper..raised on the streets but attained education/experience/wisdom thru hardship and struggle and still looking to attain the neXt level(s) of such.
again have a nice day!!
What has A&B come too? The EDUCATORS have a dilema on their hand, as to whether pregnant school girls should continue to attend mainstream school. Haven’t these girls given up that privilege when they become pregnant? I say, create an entirely different facility, provide them a teacher, and let them attend school and continue their education there. I see no discrimination in that. They have put themselves in this situation, and so the Education Dept should deal with them, not as the rule, but the exception. Why is immorality become the norm? Why are the other students made to put up with this? Is it because no one wants to be singled out as being MORAL, because they don’t know whose turn will be next? What message is being sent to the male responsible for his part in all this? From all I have read and heard, there is no remorse, guilt or shame, just looking for a solution to cover up the wrong. My answer to all this, as I mentioned before is NO. SHE SHOULD ATTEND A SCHOOL ONLY FOR (WED) OR UNWED MOTHERS, the stigma of which could be a deterrent to others.This might also cause many to keep their heads in their books, and think about their future SERIOUSLY. You might not agree with my opinion, but for sure, LIFE IS VERY HARD TODAY WITH OR WITHOUT A BABY.
Progressive countries provide education for all…pregnant or no.. they even provide child care for those who need it…have you considered that is why Antigua has so many illiterate adults?….uummmmm.
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I say NO, nontheless, any pregnant school girl should not be deprive continuation of her education.
What is required is an Educational Institution for such persons. Because this will be under a different setting, I think a fee should be charged, and my reasons are the girls should be getting pre-natal and after birth instructions, which should be part of the curriculum. As we know when carrying a baby you must see a doctor so often and to avoid missing classes the services should be provided at the school for the girls. I think this justify a fee that must be paid by the mother or father of parties involded.
This could take place at a regular school starting in the evenings. What do you think?.
I totally agree with you Tia.
Some people act as if the girls went out and intentionally got pregnant. As if they wanted that extra hardship in some cases to burden themselves with.
Mind you, most of these people who have such strong opposition to the girls staying in Mainstream schools are the same type of people who detest the use of dialect as a means of communication. They are soo comsumed with being prim and proper that they cannot see the forest for the trees.
I see absolutely no reason why pregnant schoolgirls should not be allowed to attend mainstream school. Does pregnancy all of a sudden give these girls some kind of learning disability that prevents them from understanding what the teachers are saying? And, everyone keeps talking about maternity leave. I feel like I just traveled into a time warp.
These girls need to stay in school both for their own benefit as well as the benefit of other students. They should have to deal with the consequences of their actions head on instead of being allowed to hideaway where no one sees them. Other students should be able to VISIBLY see the consequences of these actions as well. It will make them all better people, and isn’t that the ultimate goal? Apparently what’s lacking in the educational system in Antigua is reality. Everyday educators see what goes on in their schools and instead of facing it head on they close their eyes and turn their backs. STDs, & pregnancies are rampant in these schools yet everyone is still ignoring it! give me a break!
Kesha, I believe you are assuming that the “school girl” in question does k now the consequences. How will she know if we hide every girl that gets pregnant away at some hidden school for pregnant girls? I firmly believe that girls who are pregnant should be allowed to go to mainstream school while pregnant. I mean do pregnant girls all of a sudden gain some type of learning disability that prevents them from understanding what teachers of mainstream schools have to say? Can students at these mainstream schools not benefit from VISIBLY seeing the consequences that come along with having sex?
Who are we trying to protect? The other children that see these girls or the girls themselves. Because it seems to me that the only one who benefits from hiding them away are the girls themselves. They get to go away and avoid the possible shame of their actions, avoid having to answer questions or deal with inevitable stares from other students as well as teachers. Sending them to mainstream school will sever to benefit them as well as the other students.
I will continue to say it this is not 1950s America, in fact it didn’t work in 1950s America so why do we think it will work in 2009 Antigua? The fact that we are even having this discussion shows that Antigua still has a long way to go.
In reply to Nemisis:
To prevent a visibly pregnant girl from going to a mainstream school is to deny her an education. No matter how you twist it or turn it. You are delving into semantics by quoting “Mainstream School”. A similar arguement was used back in the 80′s and 90′s to DENY rastas from going to “Mainstream Schools”.
I graduated in ’00 and there were 3 pregnant girls in my graduating year who finished school. They were not bullied, they did not distract anyone and they were no different than the other students.
I am of the opinion that the proposed law amounts to nothing more than discrimination and I for one do no support it.
Nemisis since you are master of comprehension, I thought you would have noticed that the answer supplied initially was an elongated way of saying YES, SHE SHOULD.
Yes, she should be allowed to attend mainstream school. Her pregnancy may assist in reminding other girls that they are not ready for sex; certainly not unprotected sex.
Nemesis, let people express themselves the best way they know how.
I agree with NeMesis
SIMPLY “NO WAY”
SHOULD A PREGNANT GIRL BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE HER REGULAR STUDIES IN SCHOOL WITH OTHER STUDENTS, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HER FEET ARE SWOLLEN, MORNING SIKNES KICKS IN AND BY SOME UNFORTUNATE LUCK SHE VOMITS IN THE CLASSROOM BECAUSE SHE FEELS SICK, I GUESS ALL THIS WILL NOT BE A DISTRACTION TO OTHER STUDENTS…THE TEACHER THEN BECOMES DOCTOR/NURSE AND THE LESSON IS INTERRUPTED…NOT TO MENTION IF THERE R ABOUT 4 OR 5 OF THEM AT ONCE AND THEY ALL FEEL SICK….ITS BEST IF THEY STAY AT HOME UNTIL AFTER THE PREGNANCY AND CONTINUE AT ANOTHER LEARNING INSTITUTION AFTER HAVING THE CHILD…WHAT KIND OF EXAMPLE R WE SETTING FOR OUR GIRLS?…THAT ITS OK TO BECOME PREGNANT BECAUSE THERE R NO REPERCUSSIONS FOR THEIR ACTIONS?…WHILE HOME, SHE CAN CONTINUE READING AND DO ONLINE COURSES OR TAKE IN SOME OTHER CLASS…..HOW WOULD IT LOOK HER PUSHING AROUND HER BELLY UP AND DOWN ON THE SCHOOL PREMISES…I JUST DONT WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT!!!
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Mainstreem school is definitely not the place for a pregnant girl. She should be placed in a facility where she can continue her education and receive moral support and a focus and emphasis on the importance of her new journey (motherhood). Mainstream school doesn’t offer any of this. Antigua should really look into providing such places for our young girls who have made an unfortunate mistake. We must remember pregnancy is not an automatic failure and we need to uplift these girls from the negative stigma that is associated with teen pregnancy. Afterall, they are a part of our nation and what is good for them is good for us.
In my opinion a pregnant student should not be present in a classroom at all. Any pregnant young lady should still have their rights to an education and should not come to a stop because she is bringing a human being in this world. As a matter of fact she herself is still a child. The continuation of her education should be in a facility that is regulated by the Ministry of Education. This facility should provide an equal rights of education to any student who fall to teenage pregnancy plus an educational system should be set in place in looking towards becoming a mother and counseling along with the individual who impregnate her if he is in school too. If the individual is not in school he should be counseled with the young lady with theirfamily members in how to approch the situation. Also at the end of her pregnancy she should continue her education at this facility.
No I don’t think a pregnant schoolgirl should be allowed to go to mainstream school because this would cause a distraction in school and also the girl is likely to be bullied by the other children. However I do think the pregnant schoolgirl is entitled to an education and should be given the opportunity to continue her education in another facility.
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“A.J.” and everybody else that fails to understand; the question ASKS, if a pregnant schoolgirl should be allowed to go to a mainstream school while visibly pregnant? it never ASKED if she should be denied an education.
Please, it is getting quite fustrating to here a question such as this being debated by US who are giving the wrong answers to another question that was never ASKED or IMPLIED!
NOW!! by the answers/reaction WE have heard from the majority of OUR populace towards this same question, it begs to ask/debate:
Is Antigua’s populace/citizenry, at a level of intelligence to beable to properly define/interpret the differences of QUESTIONS, STATEMENTS, etc.?
I await the debates; but please if you dont understand the question above, please read it again and again until you do to beable to answer OR go your way, thank you!
have a nice day!!
I strongly think no,You go to school to learn,so why in the first place you are having unprotected sex,since she knows the consequences.
Well we want to be a progressive nation so we might as well grant maternity leave to both teachers and students.
Pregnancy is all the more reason why it is vital for a pregnant teenager be allowed to continue her education. Her life is going to be hard enough as it is, without the added disadvantage of being denied the tools to help her make a living for herself and her child.
Denying a pregnant teenager the right to an education is the worst kind of discrimination. We are denying her the right to learn how to take care of herself, much less her child, and thus perpetuating the status quo.
Perhaps what should be considered, apart from allowing these girls to stay in school, is compulsory attendance at a child-rearing class.
Babies having babies need all the educatio, help and advice we can possibly give them.
Stop the hypocrisy!
We teach our teens that they are immature physically or mentally to be parents or is that what we say BEFORE they actually it happens? We must be careful about the double messages we are sending. It’s not about punishing her/them but there are consequences to our actions. Let’s instill some personal responsibility here. Additionally, let’s not fool ourselves, there is a degree of embarrassment and confusion playing out in their minds, especially the girls. Having them leave the mainstream education system does not deny them an education, since they can continue after the birth of the child, if they so desire. I am an advocate for education, and the sky still is the limit its only a little harder to reach if there isn’t the proper structures in place and if you are a 16 year old parent.
I see no reason why she should be denied an education. It is already bad enough that she got pregnant, the humiliation that child will suffer when returning to school is punishment enough. People need to get with the times, pregnancy is not contagious, nor is it a fashion statement. Other students will not runout and get a baby just because her friend is getting one.
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